Let's Talk Local Podcast | Free Speech, Islam, and the Future of Britain: Katie Hopkins Unfiltered

00:00

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Katie Hopkins. Oh my word. I never in my life thought that I'd be able to sit and interview you. I'm so excited.

00:21

Katie Hopkins

Well, I think you might have oversold me there. Don't know if it's going to be that exciting

00:25

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

for you. Love strong personalities. I love bold people. That's the majority of my close friends, my husband, sweet Jesus, my kids. But it's just wonderful to meet you.

00:41

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Thank you. I know that you've been through hell and back over the last, let's call it, decade or so, but I am just looking forward to this conversation.

00:51

Katie Hopkins

Oh, well, that's very generous of you, and I appreciate you, and am very thrilled to be here in America. Probably my greatest love is America, has been for all For all time, For know all time, yes. So anytime that I'm here in this country, I'm always just very grateful to be allowed to be here and very, very always so conscious of the amazing freedoms that you guys still have. And actually, and I mean this respectfully, I love that you guys still take those freedoms. You don't necessarily realize the freedoms you have.

01:34

Katie Hopkins

Oh, do. Yes. Many don't. Well, yes, but in a great way. And I mean that in a positive way.

01:40

Katie Hopkins

It's so awesome to be in a country where you can do things normally and no one questions it. It's a great thing.

01:47

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Yes, it is a great thing. But there are pros and cons, believe, to every strength. And the cons are that I believe many people are unaware of what it has taken to create this freedom that we do have. So I believe that there's a bit of complacency in The United States. My family were immigrants, but we're from the Mexico area, from Chihuahua, and we have a very, very tough story, tough life, but to be able to be here and now experience the freedoms, we are beyond grateful to God for them.

02:27

Katie Hopkins

And I think Mexico in general, obviously a huge place, you can't really generalize about Mexico, but I love being in Mexico. Corp. And when lockdowns were really crushing, well, souls across the planet, I took my stuff and I ran to Mexico. Because not only do I think many Mexican families are amongst the most passionate conservatives slash Republicans that there are on the planet, much more importantly, the fundamentals of faith and family. I don't know that you find them any more strongly than you will in great Mexican families.

03:10

Katie Hopkins

So I'm so grateful to when I'm amongst people that have lived in or come from Mexico or still a party there, I feel very at home.

03:21

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I'm so glad, because yes, you're absolutely right. We do have a lot of passion. I'm grateful for that. But if you can, for our viewers and listeners who may not be as familiar with you as I am, tell people just a little bit about yourself. Some of the juicy things, some of the not so juicy things, whatever it

03:41

Katie Hopkins

is that

03:42

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

you feel.

03:42

Katie Hopkins

A little smattering. Yes, Well, firstly, more importantly, it doesn't matter at all whether people know me or not. And people will come up to me after events and say, I had no idea who you were when I came this evening. So firstly, that's by far my favorite kind of person, is someone who absolutely has no idea about me. And actually, I'm just me like anyone else is.

04:04

Katie Hopkins

And then secondly, when people come along to something where they have no idea who someone is, I think that's very charming as well. Because how nice that you took time out of your evening to come along because maybe your wife was coming and she said, oh, you should come and you did. I like that, so cool, right? We can all be together. We don't need to, most important thing about me I think, is that I am for twenty five, maybe more now years, trying to get across the message that we don't have to agree.

04:35

Katie Hopkins

So I have put myself out there, I don't ask, I will never ask anyone to agree with anything I say. And I will never ask anyone to like me. I am just here speaking my mind on things that matter to me and things that I will have spent time on the road or on the sidewalk, experiencing living, doing the hard stuff to understand. And I would just ask that you have your opinions and we can both have those and that's perfect. And I try and deliver that message on a daily basis.

05:08

Katie Hopkins

And I've been so lucky to live this long, because for the longest time of my life, I was the most hated woman in Britain. For many people, I still am the biggest enemy, probably on the face of the planet.

05:23

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

It's crazy.

05:25

Katie Hopkins

Because I'm... Was... When mainstream media ran the roost, they were able to portray me as a monster. It was absolutely believed that I was the closest thing to either Hitler or Satan, whichever And is as a result, people were permitted to hate me universally. And as a result of that, because when you've become a monster and hated, when you have everything taken from you, your jobs, your home, your head that came from a head, your children, none of my children have my name in order that they could be put in hiding, in order that they would be saved And from this isn't a sob story, it's just an explanation of when you're a monster, you can be hated and therefore anything done to you is seen as fair.

06:16

Katie Hopkins

And I have been so lucky to live long enough that the oil tanker started to turn and people have realized that maybe they were a little bit lied to about me, and I'm now able to live and breathe and work a little bit in my country again. So I've been living long enough to see a 180 shift in people realizing I'm not what they thought I was, or what they were told I was. Of course. So I've been very lucky. I'm

06:50

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

very, very filled with faith, and so I always just say, I believe that you've been blessed at this point. And sometimes you have to lose everything in order to rebuild the best version of yourself. I think

07:01

Katie Hopkins

that's so right. And that is probably the biggest gift I've been given, is to be freed utterly of everything. So I would always say to people that your path in life is already set. And even if you feel like you're in the valley right now, you just have to trust in the path. And the more you can throw yourself to your path, the clearer it becomes.

07:23

Katie Hopkins

Mine has always felt very clear to me, even in the darkest of times. And then because I was blessed to be relieved of everything that's purported to matter in life, there's nothing for anyone to take from me. And then on top of that, which is a curious thing, in my medical history, I was massively epileptic. I was cured of my epilepsy with a massive surgery. And so it also turns out I'm on extra time.

07:53

Katie Hopkins

Because that massive seizure was supposed to get me when I was 38. So I was supposed to not make it past sort of 40. And now I'm 50. So I'm on extra time as well. So in a way, what does it matter?

08:06

Katie Hopkins

If we're not living free, what does life matter? I get to live that. So I'm super lucky that way.

08:11

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

You really are. And you had a mother, a father, he was a military man, right? And you aspired to go into the military, but it was your epileptic history, or I guess beginnings.

08:23

Katie Hopkins

So I went through the Royal Academy Sandhurst. I was sponsored by the Intelligence Corps. They only took four officers in an intake. And I signed up, I was the last person in The UK to be offered a thirty five year commission, so I signed that for all my life. I would be in the British forces and I would fight for my country.

08:45

Katie Hopkins

But I didn't get to serve that time because my seizures began and it turns out I'm also epileptic. So I couldn't stay in that fight that way, but life has a way of reconciling that somehow, so that I took the fight a different way, I guess, to the road.

09:02

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right. And so you had that plan for yourself, right? God had different plans for you. Now you reside full time in The United States.

09:09

Katie Hopkins

No. You don't? No, So you're

09:11

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

not in Florida? No. I thought that you had moved to Florida. You're just touring over here.

09:17

Katie Hopkins

Yes, so I've been on the road a couple of months. So I did five months on the road in The UK, kind of gathering people together to try and uplift. UK, And I'm sure we'll get into, is very, very dark right And the thing that our people need is hope. And so five months on the road doing big events now that I'm allowed to speak in some places now, 55,000 tickets sold. That's right.

09:54

Katie Hopkins

Just rallying our people. And then over here, so I've been two months on the road here, and I go back in about a week's time. But very much I can't leave The UK because my heart is there and my parents are still alive, but also that's where the fight, the point of the sword is right now. But I imagine one day I will arrive more bedraggled than I already am with your constitution in my teeth, crawling across the Mexican border, asking for reprieve. So I just need Republicans to keep a Republican in the White House for when that day comes, if you don't mind awfully.

10:34

Katie Hopkins

That's just selfishly speaking, that's why I need you guys here.

10:37

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

You know, it's interesting to me because I come from a very, very strict Democratic family, and I was a staunch Democrat growing up. My life had it where I'm no longer a Democrat, but we try and remain center to write here. However, that was my upbringing, and I believe that it was the right thing to do, to fight for equality and for women's rights and for fill in the blank. I truly believe that that was the way, the truth, and that everyone else was wrong. But I study, I enjoy academics, I enjoy challenging my present stance on almost any situation.

11:29

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

And it was in college when I started to realize, oh my gosh, there's a whole other world. I love finance, mathematics, and so it was a lot of my professors that really enlightened me, so to speak, about what capitalism really is, are freedoms derived where they've been derived from. The fact that Thomas Jefferson, yes, may have had the Quran, but he responded with an attack following his understanding of that particular religion or their belief system. And so you are from The UK. You love it.

12:13

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

It's your home. Can you just give a snapshot about how your home has changed from when you were a little girl and to where it lands today? Visited many times and it has changed significantly over the course of just a few let's call it five years.

12:31

Katie Hopkins

Yeah, and I think it's a two sided thing. One side of this is the pure demographics. So pure demographics with no judgment or value or commentary, demographics are that we are already outnumbered. So births in The UK to Muslim families outnumber all births to every other religion in The UK.

12:57

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's

12:57

Katie Hopkins

right. The number one name in The UK is Mohammed. The number two boy's name, but number two name in The UK is Mohammed. Seven out of 10 children in any British school are Muslim practicing or practicing Islamic faith religions, and whites are rapidly becoming a minority. And by that, it's not really a racial inference, it's a Christian tradition is rapidly becoming an extreme minority, but at the same time and tied with that, unlike the advantages given to minorities when they enter our country, the white minority does not receive any advantages for being a white minority or any protections rather.

13:45

Katie Hopkins

And I always believed that South Africa would be a glimpse into the future of whites in The UK, which is why I spent time there. South African whites are down to 3%. That's right. And are being hunted from their land.

14:01

Video

The mayor of DA in PE is a white man. So these people, when you want to hit them hard, go after a white man. They feel a terrible pain because you have touched a white man. Not because Meshaba and Soli will not be touched. They will be touched.

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Video

Don't worry. But we're starting with this whiteness. We are cutting the throat of whiteness.

14:31

Katie Hopkins

And certainly, we will be headed in that trajectory. So whites are pulling away. We're kind of on the edge of the land now. We're on the coast land looking out onto the ocean, holding onto the edge of the cliff. And then our major cities, Birmingham, Bradford, Luton, Leicester, London, we are the white minority.

14:53

Katie Hopkins

And you can say, well, so what? Some people would still say, well, so what? And of course the so what is, it's only going to continue in that trajectory. And the so what is that when you have people that vote according to their religion, here in America, Dearborn in Michigan, or Minneapolis in Minnesota, you see it all the time in America, how the cities will vote blue, but the country will vote red. It's that, so in our country, it means that political control moves over to the hands of the Muslims, and that means that we have no financial power either.

15:30

Katie Hopkins

So that's one side of the equation. And then the other side is because Labour, so your Democrat party, the same playbook, understand that the route to power is the immigrant vote, the Muslim vote. All power and financial boosting is towards them. So they have their own, there's a Muslim housing association, there's the Muslim police association, there's many things that are accorded to that faith. And it means that for white minority patriots or British nationals, however you'd label yourself, it doesn't matter.

16:09

Katie Hopkins

And it's not just whites at all. Our brilliant Indian diaspora that came to join us in the 60s and 70s, they're facing a very punitive time as well. Because they're seen as the enemy. That's right.

16:22

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

What it

16:22

Katie Hopkins

because means primarily Hindu, right? Hindus. That's right. They're absolutely a target right But so let me just give some facts, so it's less me talking. So speech laws for someone like me, 62,000 people arrested in the last four years in The UK for words that are not approved by the government.

16:45

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

16:46

Katie Hopkins

So if you were to go, if I'm in The UK and I go onto Twitter, and maybe all illegals should be removed from my country, get them out, whatever. Whatever I might write, but nothing too dramatic. Course. That would be hate speech. That would be a knock at the door.

17:02

Katie Hopkins

That would be an arrestable offense. You could be taken to the station, you can be given a warning or a caution, or you can be charged. If it was me, I'd be charged. And you can be given prison time. So 62,000 just for a post on Facebook or Twitter.

17:20

Katie Hopkins

A lady who I know well now, because obviously I came charging into support Lucy Connolly. She wrote one tweet in anger when one of our children had been attacked yet again. She deleted it because her husband's a counselor and she was arrested. She was given thirty one months in prison for a single tweet, and she served half of that time in prison for one tweet. So the ability in The UK now to even, not even speak your mind in public, because you wouldn't.

17:52

Katie Hopkins

But even to go in the confines of your home and write what you think, you can't do that.

17:57

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

17:57

Katie Hopkins

You can't hold a sign if the words on the sign are not approved. That's right. It is a very sinister time. Orwellian doesn't really cut it. It's much more oppressive than that in The UK right now.

18:12

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's exactly right. Goodness, my mind was just spiraling everywhere pertaining to this particular topic because I have so much to say about it. But if you were able to decide or determine what year things really started to tip, when would that have been?

18:38

Katie Hopkins

Way back when I was first, or before, I was eviscerated from the face of the planet. So when I think about it, when I came out of the military, I was in Manhattan, I was living in the East Village for five years. I worked for Diageo. And when I came back to The UK, so I was 28 years old ish, and I applied to be on the British version of The Apprentice. Because I had watched The American Apprentice when I was over in America.

19:11

Katie Hopkins

And of course, Trumpy Trump Trump. I watched it. And I was working on Madison Avenue. I was working at business consultancy at fairly high end. And I watched The Apprentice and I saw that the winner of that competition with Trumpy Trump got to build skyscrapers along the Hudson.

19:29

Katie Hopkins

And I was like, that feels like a bit of me. So I went back to The UK, and strangely on my computer, I remember the day it was applications for the British apprentice. And I thought, well, why not blow the roof off my life as per, why not apply? Of course I apply, and then of course I get on the show. And then of course there's no Trumpy Trump Trump.

19:50

Katie Hopkins

Yes. There's just this bless his heart now, but disappointing small man. And I don't agree, he's short, right?

19:56

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Yes, yes, yes.

19:57

Katie Hopkins

And I don't agree with short people at all.

20:01

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Well then I guess that excludes me. I'm very I'm getting, I'm getting.

20:05

Katie Hopkins

Yeah, but like I say this in rooms of people sometimes when I'm explaining, I'm like, but it doesn't apply to us. Because obviously we're all perfect in every way, right? Anyway, so then I got to the end of the blooming competition, The Apprentice, which I didn't mean to. I meant to come out somewhere near the middle and people would be like, oh, she was kind of fun. Oh.

20:25

Katie Hopkins

But no, I got to the very end. And then I became super known because then I fired the boss because I wasn't gonna work for him because he was small. So then I became known, then I ended up in the media. But the point I'm rather getting to is that I kind of got snapped up, I guess, by the media because they didn't have a me. They didn't have this kind of business woman who also had kids, who was able to speak her mind, but wasn't saccharine sweet.

20:54

Katie Hopkins

Didn't want to be Well, really everybody wants to be loved, which I know it's very comforting, but it's not always the right decision. Sometimes you just got to know what you believe. And then I ended up in a very privileged position of working, having my own radio show in the heart of London, in a station that was all Democrat. It was like, if you know, working in the heart of Austin or working in the heart of San Fran. Everybody there hated me, but it was like a little...

21:24

Katie Hopkins

Oh no, but perfectly, because they hated my Well, I had a little way of almost... Like a little hammer and a chisel. Chisel. And bringing a little ray of light of normal people across my country who I knew what they were feeling and they could say it on the air. And it remains my greatest love and my greatest loss is that radio show that gave London a glimpse of light.

21:52

Katie Hopkins

But anyway, I had a radio show, had a Daily Mail column with Piers Morgan. Well, I was more red than Piers Morgan, which annoyed him, which was perfect. I was on Tucker twice a week when Tucker was sane. Hannity, I had my own slot. So I was like, known is what I'm trying to say, I guess.

22:09

Katie Hopkins

And it was I knew during that time, so that's over ten years ago, it was as clear as day to me what was already hard wired into my country, scaffolded in was the overthrow of my country. You could see it. It was almost like I could see the scaffolding poles. So hidden behind every nice euphemism or hidden behind the British Board of Deputies, the Jewish organization working with the Muslim Council. Hidden behind that, I could see the scaffolding of the overthrow, the mayors of our country all being Muslim, the import of human flesh from Africa so it would continue the voting base, the surprise, oh, a mosque being built on the Outer Hebrides in the tippy tippy top top of Scotland where only five people live and Isn't none of them are that amazing?

23:10

Katie Hopkins

And in the very most bottom part of the country, a mosque. Isn't that wonderful? And all that time seeing the plan, like reading it like a military tact, well, invasion, and then speaking of it, and refusing to back down, and then putting myself standing on the coastline of the Mediterranean, documenting these NGOs, ferrying the boatloads of human flesh for the profit of large churches and political organizations, showing it and refusing, even when very serious people were calling for me to be fired, and eventually of course I was from everything, and then some. And refusing to back down at the cost of everything, because I was showing... It wasn't me saying, oh, by the way, it was me showing people.

24:07

Katie Hopkins

And that's when the bomb dropped on my head. But certainly, everything has played out in the manner that I could see.

24:18

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's

24:18

Katie Hopkins

right. And having also spent that time in South Africa, and now the brilliance of 83,000,000 Americans getting Trump in, and Trump being able to offer asylum to white South Africans, even though majority will never leave their land, has been such a full circle moment in a way. There is always hope. I refuse to speak only of the darkness, there is hope. And America is hope.

24:47

Katie Hopkins

Right now we are,

24:48

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

and we just have to continue to fight for it. So, I become infuriated my husband is a Caucasian man. I grew up on the border of El Paso and Juarez, and on the mountain in Juarez it says La Villa Es La Verada. The Bible is the truth, read it. And I am Catholic, and I'm Christian, so I know both Bibles, the Protestant version, the Catholic version, the books removed from it.

25:22

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I understand holy books probably too well at this point, but for you, I don't know what your faith is. I know you were raised Methodist, you married a Catholic.

25:35

Katie Hopkins

Do you have faith? Yes, and then somewhere in there I'm something, but it's a sort of Christian ish dish, whatever it is that is Bible and God and When the

25:44

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

my white Caucasian friends degrade who they are, and they say, my gosh, I hate that I'm white. I hate that I'm white. I hate that this... And I have twins who are 13. One is very Latino looking, very brown skinned, and my daughter is very Caucasian looking, blue eyes, the whole thing, similar to yourself.

26:09

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

So in my brain, I'm constantly like, uh-uh, you will not speak ill of yourself. You will not put yourself down. All of the lies in this world are equal. It doesn't matter what color you are. So I'm asking you to speak to people who are Caucasian, who have blue eyes, blonde hair, red hair, Irish, whatever.

26:37

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

How can you encourage these people to have courage, bold appreciation for who they are, and not just that, to fight for the fact that they are equal to all of these people coming in who may look different, who are brown, black, whatever. What can you say to them to inspire them to show up differently and speak kindly about themselves?

27:05

Katie Hopkins

I think in all the time that I was the biggest monster that people applauded when I was being removed, or there was a play in The UK, the assassination of Katie Hopkins. Billboards went up around the country with the assassin. And I had to explain to my mother that the left thought that was sort of amusing and high art. And oh, how charming and all the rest of it. The only thing at times when things get so difficult and many people in their lives sitting at home right now will have had their own walk or maybe in it now with darkness.

27:44

Katie Hopkins

Doesn't have to be that you're known and you were in the media and canceled from everything, it doesn't have to be that. Some people have traumatic situations in their family happening. Some people have medical situations that are forcing them to the edge of the cliff, you know. And I always think that the only thing you can rely on at the end of the day is knowing who you are. And that sometimes when I've been laid out on my lounge floor, you know, just absolutely on the ground, just I have no idea how to get up or continue or face the world or go outside my front door ever again, I've been there.

28:20

Katie Hopkins

The only thing I can know that I've said to myself is I'm not what they say I am. I'm not those things. I still get it, you know, it's today if you look my name up, someone will be saying I'm whatever. And that's kind of what I advocate for people is really knowing who you are. And if in your heart, of course I've done ridiculous things,

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Video

of course

28:40

Katie Hopkins

I've done things that would be terrible. I've done things that I'm sure the Catholic church would be horrified at. It's fine, me too. Sometimes my language is not, some ladies would not approve of the language I use, that's okay. I've committed many, many sins.

28:54

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Oh, me too.

28:54

Katie Hopkins

But I know in my soul, I've enjoyed some of them as well. Same. But in my soul, I know I'm a good person and I would do anything for anyone. And that's why I'm prepared to say, oh yeah, no, I'm standing up for me, I'm standing up for you, I'm standing up for them, because I would grab anyone that was hurting. But that also means that it needs a me and it needs a you and it needs your daughters both.

29:19

Katie Hopkins

It needs all peoples. And what we've been, or many people have been instructed to do is put themselves at the back. So be this apologetic white. So the only appropriate white is an apologetic white. That's right.

29:32

Katie Hopkins

And I remember during Black Lives Matter, a, I was in... I spent some time in Downtown Minneapolis during the George Floyd moment when it was absolute barbarism on the streets. White people will never acknowledge what I observed in them is that they were in their homes, scared to come out.

29:56

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

They

29:56

Katie Hopkins

shuffled down the side of buildings because they couldn't go out. If they tried to pretend that they were going out for a meal, I've watched as blacks who were enabled by this Black Lives Matter would walk up, snatch food off their plates and walk away with it. And that isn't a generalization about all black people or colored people or Caucasian or anything. It's just apologetic whites were partly to blame for that. Taking a knee, I don't understand, but I stand.

30:28

Katie Hopkins

And I also remember here, I have a long memory and catalog of the behaviors of Americans and British people that I like to call upon from time to time. I remember when Trump was going to win, and in my heart and brain he did win in 2020, I remember America was on the edge. Because America knew that when Trump won in 2020, there was going to be riots. They knew that the Black Lives Matter brigade were going to burn, and the Democrats, and Antifa, and the Portland Massive were going to burn America down. And I was with great American families as they were preparing.

31:11

Katie Hopkins

And what was so interesting of course, is that Republicans who knew there was gonna be riots were preparing with weapons. You couldn't buy a weapon, you couldn't buy ammunition. America was out of ammunition because Republicans were getting ready. But apologetic whites who had voted Democrat and who now were going to be burnt down by the very thing they voted for. They voted for.

31:36

Katie Hopkins

They went outside, outside their big houses in their gated communities, with their yard signs, and they tried to protect themselves by hammering yard signs in that said, This house believes black lives matter. And they thought that was what was going to save them. When the people that they allied themselves with were going to burn America down, they thought a yard sign would save them. And that to me was like one of those ultimate moments of going, Guys, is it time you realize you're on the wrong team here? Because we don't go around burning stuff down when we don't agree with it.

32:13

Katie Hopkins

Just Correct. We can be disappointed. We disagree. We can fight back harder next time, but we aren't going to burn stuff down or hurt someone.

32:22

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Tell me about your understanding, and mine is the same, but I want you to elaborate on it. Tell me your understanding of how Trump has allowed South African persons to actually seek asylum in The United States? Because this is true and no one's talking about it.

32:42

Katie Hopkins

No. So still, the great denial is that whites aren't being hunted And off their my challenge to anybody who would articulate that, because it's always a white person articulating it to mainstream media, is come with me. I'll take you. You'd have to have more courage than you've got right now to come with me and sleep the night on white farms, who, incidentally, they're not white farms, they're white farmers whose grandfathers turned the bushfelt into farming land, whose farms now have trees that drip with avocados because they invested their sweat and blood and tears, but they employ generations of the black families who've worked with them.

33:25

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's

33:25

Katie Hopkins

right. The grandma of the black family is the grandma of the white family. It's the most cohesive unit working together to work the land. It's a glorious thing and gives everybody hope. These whites are being savaged in the night.

33:42

Katie Hopkins

And the stories of what happens to Oh,

33:44

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

it's disgusting.

33:45

Katie Hopkins

Yeah, and we don't need to go there. No. But they get written down as a burglary gone wrong. But a burglary done wrong does not explain a woman being strung up for twelve hours and etcetera, etcetera. And one of the great things that Trump has done with the backing of 82,000,000 Americans is offer asylum to whites, which gives their story a sort of credence that that's never had before at least.

34:11

Katie Hopkins

And it's also worth acknowledging that the majority of white South Africans would never leave, because everything they own is the land. They have nothing to leave with, which of course is many people's story that I respect. But so most South Africans will say, I will die in my boots for the love of my land. But equally, a couple of youngsters will try. And at a recent event I did in Milwaukee, I was reduced to a mess in moments because two South Africans were in the audience that had just arrived into Milwaukee with pretty much nothing.

34:53

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Makes me want to cry.

34:54

Katie Hopkins

Right? So that was it for me then, I was gone. So which wasn't super helpful at the start of the evening. It is a full circle story. And again, just a moment of I'm super glad to live this long that I see this.

35:06

Katie Hopkins

And Trump and America is helping South Africans recognize that they are being at least a little bit hurt. And that matters. It matters to be a little bit hurt.

35:15

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

It really does. And I would never advocate for the fact that Trump is perfect. No politician is perfect. No person, no human on earth is perfect. I We're all can't even take communion in the Catholic church, it's fine.

35:28

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

But I'm still Catholic. It's fine. But I've dined with him enough, I've visited with him enough. I know that he is not an evil, evil, horrific Perfect? No.

35:46

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

But the fact that you told that story about him fighting for these people, Those stories are never told in the mainstream media, so thank you for sharing that. Let's toggle over to your land for a little bit. Shannon, if you could pull the clip one there, just for her to see, where you know, you talked about the fact that boats were arriving, things were being jammed. If you could just refresh your memory slightly on on what you shared here.

36:19

Katie Hopkins

Breaking news, not quite, in Bannock Bonkers Britain. We're first up. An entire area of The UK called Gosport was locked down, put under a kind of martial law to stop British nationals getting angry about an illegal invading army being dumped on the shoreline. So there were jammers and signal blockers to stop people tracking the illegals' boats. There was a fleet of ambulances to welcome the illegals in case they needed any medical attention, and there was a kind of police cavalcade outriders on motorbikes just so that the illegals feel particularly important in our country.

36:56

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Tell us about this, because you talk about how they're receiving full VIP treatment on your land.

37:02

Katie Hopkins

Oh my word.

37:03

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Tell us.

37:04

Katie Hopkins

Yeah. I mean, so flashback 2014, I'm stood on the shores of the Mediterranean in Italy and Sicily, and I'm watching Save the Children bring over human flesh from Libya. So they rendezvous with the Libyans mid med. And then they bring over the human flesh. Any women get sold off to the men that run women on the sides of the road.

37:36

Katie Hopkins

And then men get brought in for whatever purposes. Cut to now in The UK in 2026. And it just happened on the shoreline, the South Coast Of The UK, because a great organization that's just starting to rise up the Patriot platform, And one gentleman in particular leading that, Danny Tomoe, he had got himself to the coastline where these small inflatable dinghies, although some of them not so small, bringing two fifty people at a time, over from France, again, being met mid channel by the RNLI, the lifeboat service. So same strategies, same tactics. Danny and the lads got themselves into the shoreline, were trying to stop the boats physically.

38:27

Katie Hopkins

Danny Tomo actually managed to prevent the boats from landing. They had to get a new docking point. It was disrupting the process of bringing human flesh to The UK. So the very next crossing, the scheduled ferry service that we're supposed to believe is asylum seekers desperate for asylum as opposed to a government backed moving of humans. They, where they were gonna bring them, which is a place called Gosport, so they locked down an entire area with something called a Section 35, 53, can't remember.

39:06

Katie Hopkins

People had to stay in their homes, They weren't allowed out. They brought in huge signal jammers, which we don't see on a regular basis. That's a weird thing to see in the street. That's like military level kind of idea. Put signal jammers so no one could track where these vessels were.

39:23

Katie Hopkins

Then they'd also, at this point, they'd also got Danny Tommo, the leader of that Patriot platform and stuck him in prison without a trial, he's still in prison as we speak. And then they brought in the boatloads of flesh, all single fighting age Muslim men from countries that have no shared culture with ours. There were fleets of buses, coaches actually, waiting for these men. And then there were a fleet of ambulances. And the backstory there briefly is that with socialized healthcare, if your nan or your gran maybe has a heart attack, there's no saying an ambulance is gonna come in The UK.

40:05

Katie Hopkins

You can break your hip, that's a four hour wait on your floor for an ambulance. We can't get ambulances. But there was a fleet of ambulances waiting for these legals, which is very hard for people to see. And then they were taken off with outriders, police, motorbike, outriders, like a VIP cavalcade. And British people watched it.

40:30

Katie Hopkins

It was almost like a movie. Even for someone as sort of worn in with what's going on, it was almost unbelievable. And just sort of this... But the people on the other side just sort of quietly look away. Yes.

40:48

Katie Hopkins

That's the other weird bitch.

40:50

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

It is, because under Biden administration, we had a ton of people flowing into the and all of these non US citizens were placed in beautiful hotels for free.

41:05

Katie Hopkins

For sure.

41:05

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

And right when people here in DFW, in certain parts in Dallas, their homes are leaking. They're being outpriced of their homes. It's sad. Some people don't have enough money to eat. But people who are not US citizens, who have never fought for the country, never earned right, sure, I understand people need to seek asylum.

41:34

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I'm never saying that. My birth mother, she had to give me up for adoption. She was too poor to feed me. My siblings were raised in Jimenezuela. Was in El Paso.

41:44

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Both of my parents have now passed. My mother was 84. She passed last year. My parents that raised me. And interestingly enough I told you, nothing that you personally have ever done, I don't even think comes this close to horrible stuff I've done in my life.

42:02

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

But at 15, I had an abortion. I've had many shows about this. It wrecked my mental health. But because I found out at 17 that I was given up for adoption, and that my mother my birth mother, when she could have aborted me, let's

42:19

Katie Hopkins

say

42:19

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

just decided to give me life. I'm going somewhere with this, I promise. So I believe that we are in a true spiritual war. So speaking about what you're speaking about, I am absolutely pro life, protecting people, giving people better options when they deserve it. But speak to the specific kind of immigrants, if you can, that are arriving on the shores.

42:46

Katie Hopkins

Yeah, I mean, are importing the most brutal of individuals that you will ever see. Criminals. But also, I wouldn't even go, criminals are sort of a classification for people who operate outside of a system. These guys don't even have that. I mean, when there are stories, so very recently there was a story of there was two women who did make it onto the boat, or the little rubber boat thing.

43:15

Katie Hopkins

But then both of them were supposed to have died of heart attacks. That's right. Statistically, the probability of two women on a boat dying of a heart attack, it is a nonsense. We just had a story of a baby that was crying, it was annoying people, so they threw it overboard. I mean, the barbarism, I've spent time sleeping in the camp in Calais where they accumulate before they make the crossing.

43:42

Katie Hopkins

I was hunting for a woman basically with a camera team. I found one woman who had a child. And at night she would dress her daughter, this girl who I'm fairly certain would never have made it, neither of them will have made it. But she would dress the girl as a boy, so that when she was out, the boy had a better chance of surviving if the men thought it was a boy. That's right.

44:07

Katie Hopkins

Than if it was a girl, it would just be disappeared for use.

44:10

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's

44:11

Katie Hopkins

right. So we're bringing in just pure, what I would call utterly feral humans. And to say that in The UK, to call humans feral, that certainly is an arrestable offense It is. So you can't call it out, and yet our young white girls are being disappeared or raped on a daily basis. And the last minor uprising in Northern Ireland was because of a young girl being disappeared and what went on with her.

44:38

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I know

44:38

Katie Hopkins

it. So, and then there's also this ordinary British people working hard, because that's what we do, right? Paying taxes, knowing that our taxes are not now going to help our mum and dad get ambulances or hospital treatment, knowing that our taxes are going to places like Birmingham, where benefits are now three to one. So for every pound that is achieved in taxes, pounds 3 is spent on benefits to new arrivals. If you're an illegal in The UK, you can claim benefits.

45:14

Katie Hopkins

Each of your wives can claim benefits. And you can claim benefits for each of the children that you have with each of your wives. So you see how the system is set up to benefit a Muslim family. But it is white people working and others, Hindus, working hard to pay taxes and seeing none of the returns. And I guess my question not so many weeks ago was, for how long is it morally righteous to pay taxes if it is funding the end times of your country?

45:50

Katie Hopkins

And that's something obviously, it's not just about being, I don't want to pay my taxes. It's, is it right to fund the collapse of your country?

45:59

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right. That is now why I vote the way that I do. I vote conservative at this point, and I always thought of myself to be somewhat moderate, truly. But as the pendulum swings in either direction, I find myself falling more and more and more in alignment with conservative leaders because they're voting to preserve our democracy. You speak extensively about 2A, about our second amendment.

46:35

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I am a hunter, You're more than welcome to come to our ranch at any time. It's in East Texas. But let me ask Shannon to play this clip, clip number three, please, about the Second Amendment being a major differentiator in The United States, if you can.

46:52

Katie Hopkins

It is an impossible thing for British people to understand the Second Amendment and why Americans have guns. But let me tell you, Americans would never allow a gas company to break into their homes and mess with things inside their homes. It's not even possible. Americans look at this and just go, they're incredulous. It's not believable that that could happen because Americans are raised with freedom kind of hardwired into them.

47:20

Katie Hopkins

They're told, it's your God given right. Your freedom is yours, and your Second Amendment right is yours to defend your freedoms with. And British people are fed this diet of, you know, mass school shootings and weapons are terrible and Piers Morgan's pant wetting. We mustn't have guns. Guns are a terrible thing.

47:37

Katie Hopkins

But the thing is, the second amendment is what separates America from about every other country on this planet. Because if you break into an American's home, you should plan on not being able to leave that home. It couldn't happen. It wouldn't happen. And it's why the second amendment is so important.

47:59

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Speak about that if you can.

48:01

Katie Hopkins

Well that's... Feel... Look at the state of that. That's me very, very cross. So that's a woodland near where I live.

48:12

Katie Hopkins

This is early in the morning, am angry. So I have my two dogs with me, and when I cross about things, I run with my dogs in the rain to get some of it out of me. So I can see the angry woman there. Inside I know, there is any I can feel myself like, so something's going on in my country, and I'm like raging. But it is that.

48:39

Katie Hopkins

It's the perfect articulation, I suppose, of the difference between Americans and British people, is that the idea, the thought that someone would enter your property or your home, or come near your family, It's just not conceivable in Texas particularly. I mean, other places, other states, understand there's this idea of some places you're supposed to, like Minnesota, you're supposed to let them come in, try and make an exit out the back of your property, ask politely if they wouldn't mind awfully if you left while they came in. That nonsense that happens with blue states. But if you hit red states, the idea of someone coming into your home or near your children is just a complete anathema to Americans. Whereas in The UK, we have nothing to defend ourselves with.

49:27

Katie Hopkins

And when a couple of jihadis practiced, so they were coming for me, they practiced their attack, they had a shop dummy and a hunting knife to practice with. Their attack was imminent, so my home in the countryside where I had my children tucked away, we had a knock at the door and a team of men, all dressed in black, came into my home, set up alarms, my phone that I could drop my... All I had to do was pick up and drop it and the police would come at the top floor of my home, three floors up, they put up, so they said I should run up there if jihadis came to chop my head off, I should run up to the top Floor past my children's floor, like I'm gonna Oh my do gosh. And I should grab this box, I would shake it and then the police would come. Oh, sure.

50:20

Katie Hopkins

So that's what we're supposed to do if someone comes to help you and you get the panic alarm, otherwise you've got nothing. In the street, we're armed with nothing. And our police, our regular police, Americans always are like, no, you're joking. I'm not. Our regular police on the street are not armed in The UK.

50:41

Katie Hopkins

They don't bear weapons. So if someone comes at them with a knife, all they've got is a taser or pepper spray.

50:47

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Pepper spray, that's right. But that's

50:48

Katie Hopkins

all their hands, that's it.

50:50

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

50:50

Katie Hopkins

You have to call in armed response.

50:53

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

50:54

Katie Hopkins

It's just an insane way of being. And even if you're someone who said, I will never touch a weapon, I don't believe in weapons, great, okay you. But someone, a good person, will be there to protect you one day. And we see this played out in churches all the time. That's right.

51:09

Katie Hopkins

One good man with a good shot resolves the issue.

51:12

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right. Thank you for sharing that, because I hunt, I always carry on myself. I was arrested recently in New York because you can't carry guns there, so I accidentally left my brass knuckles in my purse. When I walk on the street, I want something to protect myself. Unfortunately, I left it in my bag, they found it in security, so I walked off in a mink coat.

51:48

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

My husband's laughing, I'm like, See you in twenty.

51:51

Katie Hopkins

Sarah, you have your phone. Right? Yes. I can. I love you.

52:00

Katie Hopkins

See you in ten to twenty. So

52:03

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I know the cities in America, right, that have particular laws. Again, I didn't realize that the handcuffs were illegal, I had no idea. I mean not the handcuffs, I'm sorry, breast Because I'm small, and I've been in situations before where I've had to defend myself and other situations where I couldn't defend myself because I had drugs in me. It's been a road. So for you, when did those laws change?

52:33

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

When is it that you were not allowed to have a right to bear arms. It's never been allowed.

52:43

Katie Hopkins

We've never been allowed. Never in history. I mean, I guess going back at some point, before my parents' generation, you could. But I guess we've never been allowed. And certainly as farmers, maybe you can own a shotgun, but that has to be locked in a shotgun cupboard for sporting purposes or farming purposes only.

53:07

Katie Hopkins

So we don't have any access to anything, and even pepper spray is not allowed. So girls aren't allowed to carry pepper spray. That's right.

53:16

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

And so, this is what infuriates me, as a woman who can defend herself with or without guns, but it doesn't matter if a two hundred pound man is fighting me, I can only do so much as a five three one and fifteen pound lady. Physics is physics. You're so cute. No, but it's the truth. I'm not an idiot.

53:44

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

No.

53:44

Katie Hopkins

Exactly. So,

53:48

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

what warning, I believe it's a warning, can you give to American citizens who are loving and who truly do believe, like myself, that Muslim people, there are many peaceful Muslims. But, when the numbers on that scale tip, and we have enough elected Muslim leaders who are Islamists in government leadership. Even the peaceful Muslims, who are let's call them clueless or unwilling to understand the harsh realities of their faith, if the numbers ever tip outside of favor for, let's call it, Christians, Hindus, Jewish people. What does that look like for us if we are not voting for people who believe strongly in the Second Amendment?

54:56

Katie Hopkins

Yeah. I mean, you can see it playing out day by day here. Because number one, when you have a Muslim candidate, it's always what you hear first. They're a Muslim candidate. So you have Al Sayed, or you have Ilhan Omar, or you had the squad.

55:13

Katie Hopkins

Their Muslimness, their Islamic faith was always the number one thing. The second thing is there's always a change. They're always pushing for a change. So now you're allowed a headscarf in Congress. Now you're allowed to wear headscarfs.

55:26

Katie Hopkins

Now we want another change because of our faith. Now I'm gonna be sworn in on the Quran instead of the Bible. Now we're gonna have political advertising in languages that aren't the American language. Now we're going to have Somali candidates representing the Somalis, which means this is a Somali zone with Somali housing. And before you know it, all of the allocations of funding and finance are going to Somalis and no one's questioning when the childcare situation happens, which kudos to Nick Sorsor every day of the week.

55:55

Katie Hopkins

And that is already underway at speed. The scaffolding is going in. I can almost hear the scaffolding tubes being erected. Dearborn is a great example. Minnesota is a great example.

56:09

Katie Hopkins

The Islamic center they want to build in Texas. It's not a surprise. Or it's not just, oh, there was a lot of land in Texas. Oh, it was particularly convenient to get planning in Texas. No.

56:20

Katie Hopkins

And during the time of the Biden administration, when the borders were open and there were floods of illegals coming over the border, the first thing that happened down near that border was Islamic conversion So centers that you would bring them over, the NGOs would be paid to dump at the Islamic conversion center, convert them to Islam, send them on to the next place, send them over to the welcoming branch in Minneapolis. The system is there if you just sniff it out. And so it's not even that you have to be prepared to kind of, oh, we must be aware of this. It's almost that you need to be on the, as if you were preparing to take aim, you have to be on that front foot already, right? You have to be aggressively leaning forwards, not into your weapon, the analogy is there, aggressively forward looking, because you guys are already on the defense of it, whether you're aware of it or not.

57:16

Katie Hopkins

It's not a, oh, let's wait and see.

57:18

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Oh, are truly on the Of course, yeah,

57:21

Katie Hopkins

and being ready, I can feel myself fighting forwards for America. And also, just to make it perfectly clear in a way that is probably better that I do, is that I don't buy into this. I know there's peaceful Muslims and I know we live amongst them and isn't that great? I come from the, because you can't work out, you know, in the... It's the sort of bag of sweet example, in there, there's two that will kill you.

57:48

Katie Hopkins

Well, then the whole bag of sweets has to go, because I'm not willing to play the Russian roulette game and work out which one's the friendly one. It doesn't work that way. When you have people that are motivated first by religion, that is not how our democracies were formed. And it is not a sustainable situation. And if you take this, if you then extrapolate to the South African example, they are building and have a Rihanna, a white community.

58:22

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

And

58:23

Katie Hopkins

it's not a race thing. It is a way of ensuring they can defend a homeland for themselves. Because if you let in one bad operator, you sacrifice the whole. And that is, I always say to people, look to South Africa. And another thing, very briefly, is during apartheid and then after, whites were forced to hand over, lay down their weapons.

58:55

Katie Hopkins

And it is those weapons by serial number that are now used by black police officers and black gangs to kill whites.

59:05

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

59:06

Katie Hopkins

So their own weapons used against them.

59:08

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's

59:08

Katie Hopkins

right. And Americans are able to see this, obviously.

59:12

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Well, here's the thing. You think Americans are able to see this, but because of the algorithms our conversation, I don't know if it'll show up in my friends who vote differently. I don't know if it'll show up in their feed, it probably won't. So yes, you and I can sit here and say, Oh, yes, Americans are able to see the case in point in South America or in The UK, but they don't believe it. They believe that what I'm saying, or what you're saying, is fear mongering.

59:47

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

They believe that there is untruth to what we're saying. And I don't know what to do about that.

59:56

Katie Hopkins

Yes, And also, you can believe it's untrue, or choose to believe it's untrue because it leaves a nasty taste. It's the things you've been warned about. It's, oh, that sounds a bit racist, or I would be called racist if I thought that. So it sounds like things that you want to avoid and self preservation has been driven into people that are in order to self preserve what I have, my family or my home or my job or my friends or my invitations to events or invitations to the mom's coffee morning. I don't know what people want to be invited to, but in order to preserve those things, those little things, I don't think I want to be involved in anything that that nasty Princess Anne horse face looking woman has to say.

60:41

Katie Hopkins

And no, but these are the tools with which you can push people away. You can, well look at her, she looks like a horse. I kind of do. People often ask me actually, no, it's a fun thing. People often ask me if I ride and then I say to them, you do know you've asked me that because I look a bit like a horse.

60:58

Katie Hopkins

And they're like, yes you do. I don't mind it at all, I quite like it. But my thing is, it's easier to push it away. And I so get that. And that's why actually I do what I do here in America, which is mostly go out to the places others won't, to gather people.

61:18

Katie Hopkins

Doesn't matter how many or how few, because in person, it's so much more powerful to deliver It your is. And I don't choose the easy route. So I kind of figure that I leave that to the boys, which is to turn up in the main city or the main place. And in a nice crowd with nice red people and talk red things, right? But the route I've walked to get to you here is San Francisco, is Portland, Oregon, is wider Oregon, is Detroit, Milwaukee, which is a bit more of us, and more difficult places.

61:58

Katie Hopkins

Because I believe that rallying the reds in places that are predominantly blue is vital. And whilst the American democratic system rewards swing states, it is important that we don't forget the deep red that is out there amongst the blue. And so I usually target the deep red, the pockets of deep red.

62:20

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Interesting, because I wondered, because I looked at your tour, and I know you're going to Austin, you're going to El Paso, my home city of

62:27

Katie Hopkins

El It makes no sense to a normal person.

62:30

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

But here's the thing, you know what I thought to myself? I thought either she's really smart and understands tactical creation and rallying of human interaction, or she's crazy. So But most people just hear

62:48

Katie Hopkins

me go, I looked at your tour. You're crazy. No. San Fran,

62:51

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Austin. Brilliant. I would do it I would do it just like you. If my kids... If and when they're out of the house, and, you know, I I don't have to stay here a lot.

62:59

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

It will happen. I will do that.

63:01

Katie Hopkins

Yes, you will. You will stand on a hay bale. I was on a hay bale the other day, stood on a hay bale, encouraging the room, getting the room to laugh at me. Poking fun in myself. Yep.

63:16

Katie Hopkins

Being respectful because I'm a foreigner and I know it, and I know you've thrown us out of here to us before. You know, but it's important to be a respectful foreigner because it is. I'm so grateful to be here. But I will be rallying deep red. Deep red in California.

63:33

Katie Hopkins

California red is the reddest of red. The love Austin red. Round Rock, oh my gosh. Oh yeah. It's the reddest of reds.

63:42

Katie Hopkins

So actually, there is glory in rallying the red and the blue because it is the most red, and that is the truest to my heart. And I think that's where I see my little calling here in America.

63:57

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

What do you believe, so with these respective audiences, because your show is selling out everywhere, What do you believe the themes are that are hitting hardest and resonating the most?

64:12

Katie Hopkins

So if I take my UK tour, and if you think about the climate of The UK and the level of hostility of The UK, and the speech laws in The UK. And the fact that most of my I say that I will hold the line in The UK, I be I play the violin as it happens. So I'll be playing the violin on the Titanic as it goes down. And then I plan to swim to America. I'm not going down.

64:38

Katie Hopkins

I'm not going down, down, down. I'll keep breathing as long as I'm allowed to breathe on this planet. But you think about that climate and the unkindness and that I'm a minority, and then the people who want to be the self preserving whites who would happily throw me to the crocodiles if it allows them to stay alive one more day. But an amazing thing, because the British, brilliant British people out there love America like I do, or a little bit like I do. Because they've seen what I've endured, they met most of them, bullied, they hated me, and now realize I'm not You

65:18

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

weren't crazy.

65:19

Katie Hopkins

Or at least, yeah, I'm not a monster. But we can still disagree.

65:23

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Yes, sure. That's the

65:24

Katie Hopkins

big message every day. And so a weird thing, I started a mission about four years ago when I first got my voice back in The UK after not being able to speak for five years, when I would come to America just to And stay sane and be able to I made it my mission to try to reclaim the public square, which is an impossible mission. But what happened was for the first year I did it as speakeasies in the night. I would be above an underwear shop in a place called Nantwich. I would be in a garden center shed.

66:01

Katie Hopkins

In I would be in a small churchyard that had a cafe in it. And there would be no invitation, no nothing. People would let other people know by word-of-mouth and we would gather 20, 30 people. And I did that for a whole year without any fanfare. Then the next year, there were some bigger places, a theater allowed me to perform.

66:24

Katie Hopkins

And word spread and that place sold out. And so they opened up additional nights and they sold. And then we sold out the theaters, never been sold out. And then another theater that was going under said, okay, you can come. They didn't want me because of the hassle, but they sold it out.

66:40

Katie Hopkins

And now four years in, 43 theaters 55,000 people fully sold out tour. And so we are the most commercially viable tour in The UK, but theaters that are arts funded, government funded in labor or Muslim areas won't have me. Of course. But it does mean that people will travel to be there. And the point of this is, and the themes that you asked, people walk in to a 1,500 seater theatre fully sold out, and no one else can sell it out.

67:14

Katie Hopkins

They'll walk in, and ordinary people are disbelieving that there's that many people in a room that don't care what they think, or where they came from, what color they are, or what they believe, they just want them to be okay. And if they lose something, it's gonna set me off. If they drop something, it'll be handed in. That's right. It just will.

67:37

Katie Hopkins

If they fall over, someone will pick them up, make sure they're all right, get them sat back down. And then during the night, because during the show I get the youngest person to say, 18 year olds, a row of them all together having fun. The oldest person, 93 year old Bob we had at Trump Turnberry came out on his own, 93 years old, because he wanted to be in a room and see what it would be like to have people that understood his thinking of the country. And then the audience just standing up to applaud 93 year old Bob, and the gay guy, my sturdy lesbians that I love. And suddenly the room is like, wow.

68:19

Katie Hopkins

And the big thing is the people who preach tolerance are actually the least tolerant of all, because you have to believe LGBTQ LMNOP, you have to believe the trans idiocy, you have to believe that you are free Palestine. You have to be pro Ukraine. Have to have to have to have to have That's not tolerance. No. That's mandatory thinking.

68:40

Katie Hopkins

It is. And the people who claim to be inclusive are the most exclusionary. Not only do they exclude me, they exclude all these good people. And it is amazing thing for theater managers to see it and the volunteers to see it in the theaters. And they will come up inevitably and go, Oh, Katie, we were really surprised.

69:04

Katie Hopkins

Your audience was quite nice. And I think, Ah, I got you. I got you. Because you didn't want me, you didn't want my audience, you thought they were all skinhead, white men, 50 year

69:16

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Monsters. Old

69:17

Katie Hopkins

monsters ready to punch people, tattoos, uncouth, whatever you thought we were. And we're some of that as well, because I don't mind those people either. But you just got schooled. And that's my mission, and I'm on it.

69:29

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

And I love that.

69:29

Katie Hopkins

And it's great.

69:30

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Yes, and I love that you spoke about the fact that you had gay guys, But a lot of here's the thing, are they now recognizing that they will be hunted?

69:42

Katie Hopkins

Oh, they know it. They will be hunted. They know it already. They're the not good enough gays. That's right.

69:48

Katie Hopkins

So my gays in the audience are the not good enough gays because they don't buy into the trans thing. Or they don't want to be part of pride because they think it's disgusting that people are naked in the street in front of

69:57

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

their children. And

69:59

Katie Hopkins

our lovely sturdy lesbians, they call themselves that. I'm just repeating what Because they they're just like the original lesbian community who knew what it was like to not be able to be allowed to be alive.

70:11

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

That's right.

70:11

Katie Hopkins

But now they're not good enough. Because they don't accept the rest of it, because they think it's not right

70:16

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

for

70:17

Katie Hopkins

our children. So they're like with us. Because they've now become the monster. So in turn, as life has gone

70:25

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

on Become emotional too.

70:27

Katie Hopkins

I know, it sets me right off. It does. And after these shows sometimes, I'm like doing the last thing, it's like going to be Okay. But I'm saying, we are many, and we are stronger together. And then I am thanking everybody, I'm getting off stage.

70:42

Katie Hopkins

And then my team now, it'll just flow out of me. Because it's just a sort of a conduit of goodness. I love these people so much.

70:52

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I know it. I know it. And so

70:54

Katie Hopkins

I know it's

70:56

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

crying. Of I'm like, why

70:58

Katie Hopkins

am I Us are supposed to be like, badass, nasty cowbirds, and now your mascara is not going to make the day, babe. This is not what we have were another supposed to 10, but I'm just You'll get it

71:09

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

together by then. Thankful to you for being here, because It's emotional.

71:12

Katie Hopkins

It is. These are yeah, thanks.

71:14

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

She loved them. It's these conversations, Katie, that

71:19

Katie Hopkins

people don't

71:20

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

have, and people aren't aware of. And I just wish I could scream at the top of my lungs, stand on a hay bale, and say,

71:29

Katie Hopkins

Oh, it's fine. You will one day.

71:30

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Yes, And and just so, say

71:33

Katie Hopkins

I'll have you with me.

71:33

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

In order to preserve the freedoms that we are accustomed to, you have to vote. You have to vote. You have to understand. Challenge yourself.

71:43

Katie Hopkins

Vote all the way down the ballot. Yes. Always. So this would be my round rock. We had an opportunity I got up there and hustled the crowd up, and then we had the candidates come up.

71:54

Katie Hopkins

And the thing they repeated was all the way down the ballot to the last name standing, you find your team and you vote for them. I don't care if you've to hold your nose, look at my nose, it's a big job.

72:04

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Mine too.

72:06

Katie Hopkins

Look at our noses. So hold your nose and just vote it, because the alternative is not in your favor, right? Just for now. I'm a foreigner, I get it. But just hold your nose and do it all the way down to the bottom of that piece of paper.

72:17

Katie Hopkins

And just do it this time because British people will be grateful to you. But it is an emotional thing because it's real. The goodness is so real. And in the end, I know for certain, not in my time, but good will win. Good does win in the end.

72:36

Katie Hopkins

Yes, it does. And we've been shown that throughout time. Even now in the darkest of times as they come, we're revealing things, Noah's Ark potentially, that the outline of the Ark We of Noah just have been are being shown symbols to encourage us to keep our faith in whatever way you have your faith. That's It could be your family, it could be your pet. You know, I always say dog is a great representation Yes, of yes.

73:05

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

Love, true love.

73:05

Katie Hopkins

Exactly. And whatever your representation is, stay with it, sit with it, run with it, like an angry woman in the woods if you need to. Because it will preserve you for another day. And that's really all you have to do is preserve the fight for another day. And that way in the end we win.

73:26

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

I need to offer you a little bit of advice in the three minutes, whatever that we

73:30

Katie Hopkins

have. I

73:34

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

know that you have some version of faith, but I believe that you're doing such important work, and so I guess I'm going to text you after this just some prayers that you need to say over yourself. Every day. I surround myself with an interesting group, like I said, I've made more mistakes than you, probably 10 times over,

73:55

Katie Hopkins

it's We can have a mistake competition.

73:56

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

We can, over maybe with tequila. However, it's interesting because I now have a group of people who are extremely faith abiding. I have now transformed my life, I'm a different woman today, only by the grace of God, but they have the gift of being able to see into the spiritual realm, who are called mystics in the Catholic faith, but now that I understand spiritual warfare in ways that I never did before, will be attacked, right? I'm talking about in the spiritual sense, and so I'm going to text you some prayers that I'm going to beg of you to say at the start of your day, if I you don't will. Prayers of protection, because you need them.

74:50

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

You might think I'm insane, I don't

74:51

Katie Hopkins

care.

74:51

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

No, I don't. And just like you, I have 10% Jewish in me, so Ashkenazi, Sephardic, I look it. And so I have a big mouth, I know people have talked about your big mouth, people have talked about my nose, it's fine. But in terms of you needing your spiritual warfare, I need you to start it.

75:12

Katie Hopkins

That's a deal. I say to my husband whenever there's a little thing going along, and I say, look to the sky. So that's always my so that's my kind of call to myself. And it's something I do whenever I hop out in the morning is always to look to the sky. And that is kind of my it's a perspective thing, but it's also a little, Okay.

75:30

Katie Hopkins

A prayer. Here I go, Yeah, absolutely. Whatever your plan is for me, I accept it. Whatever it is, I prefer if it was quick. Of course,

75:40

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

it's quick. It's quick. I have quick, I do long, but I'll send you quick.

75:43

Katie Hopkins

Oh yeah, but I also mean, if the end is coming, I prefer it was quick. That's my only answer, Oh,

75:48

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

got you. Yes, yes, same. I do not want to be tortured.

75:51

Katie Hopkins

This was a lot of fun. I'm grateful to you. I'm grateful for what you do. I'm grateful to your audience. And I encourage them to stay close to you and to spread the word that you're spreading.

76:04

Katie Hopkins

Because every one person they tell gets your voice to be louder. And that's an important thing. And I encourage all Americans, firstly, thank you for letting me be in your country. Thank you for voting to keep hope alive for British people, because we do look to you. You are the shining light.

76:25

Katie Hopkins

You are the beacon on the hill for us. So we really appreciate you. So God bless Trumpy Trump Trump, and God bless America.

76:34

Sarah Zubiate Bennett

God bless you. Thank you, Katie. Thank you.

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