A resurfaced trial transcript reveals that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime pilot traveled regularly to Dallas, Texas, for helicopter training.
The full testimony was delivered in 2021 by Epstein’s pilot, Lawrence Visoski, during Maxwell’s federal sex-trafficking trial. It was made publicly accessible after the Republican-controlled House Oversight Committee published thousands of pages of court records on September 2. While some details were reported during the trial, Maxwell’s repeated training trips to Dallas had not been widely noted until now.
“You also accompanied Chislaine to a different helicopter training school in Dallas, Texas; is that right?” a defense attorney asked Visoski, according to the transcript.
“That’s correct,” he replied.
Visoski testified that he and Maxwell traveled to Dallas once a year for recurrent helicopter training, typically lasting four to five days. “We were required to go back for recurrent training,” he said, describing sessions that included two days of ground school and multiple days of flight instruction.
The pilot also recalled that he and Maxwell sometimes went out for steak dinners during their Texas trips. “Those were fun events, right?” the attorney asked.
“Yes,” Visoski answered.
The pilot did not specify the exact years these trainings took place. However, Visoki was widely reported to have been Epstein’s pilot from somewhere in the 1990s until the 2010s.
The Dallas connection expands the picture of Epstein’s ties to Texas.
Flight logs of Epstein’s private jet, known as the “Lolita Express,” show it made stops in San Antonio, Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, and Houston’s Hobby Airport, according to The Texan. Virginia Giuffre, then known as Virginia Roberts, was reportedly aboard when the jet touched down in San Antonio.
Visoski, who worked as Epstein’s pilot for nearly 30 years, testified that Maxwell was “Number 2” in Epstein’s operations.
Asked by prosecutors where Maxwell stood in the hierarchy, he said, “Epstein was the big Number 1.” His description supported what federal prosecutors argued in opening statements, that Epstein and Maxwell were “partners in crime.”
Yet, Visoski also testified that he never saw Maxwell or Epstein engage in sexual activity with underage girls.
“You never saw Ghislaine do anything or say anything that would lead you to believe she was helping Epstein or anyone else sexually abuse underage girls?” a defense attorney asked.
“No, not at all,” Visoski said. He added that if he had suspected wrongdoing, he would not have allowed his daughters to spend time around Maxwell.
Maxwell was convicted in December 2021 on sex trafficking charges and sentenced in 2022 to 20 years in prison. In August, she was transferred from a Florida facility to a minimum-security federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas. This move has drawn criticism from inmates and sparked questions on Capitol Hill, according to The Dallas Express.